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Dubai Night Sky? [Jul. 4th, 2006|06:03 am]
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To doc_cathode, I have to concur that taking pictures of the Dubai night sky is "difficult;" at least, with our little Fujifilm FinePix F10 it is difficult. I've tried; I'm a huge fan of the moon, and Dubai is just far enough north that we can see a difference in the tilt of the smile of moon between summer and winter. Sometimes I try to capture the image, but I've never succeeded. Incidentally, I've never noticed any stars at all from here in Dubai. Maybe they're not visible, or maybe I'm too busy looking at the moon to notice.

So instead, I give you a couple of pictures taken from my friend's apartment's roof.



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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-04 03:32 am (UTC)
I'm going to bring a D-SLR with tripod, and probably get some gradient filters, to ty to get shots of the night sky properly exposed WITH buildings. Basically a darkish filter at the bottom should help, and long (30+ sec) exposure.
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-04 06:05 pm (UTC)
Someday I'll have the funds to get one of those!
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From: (Anonymous)
2006-07-04 03:50 am (UTC)
Nice pics. Makes me miss the place
/sea-gull
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-04 07:08 pm (UTC)
Hey, Don said you might come for another visit!! =D
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[User Picture]From: scottks
2006-07-04 04:23 am (UTC)
Very pretty!
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-04 07:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
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[User Picture]From: anosako
2006-07-04 05:12 am (UTC)
"Twinkling" stars are signs of air pollution and eyes reflecting street lights, at times. Truly, deserts are the best places to view natural glows of light from stars.

As for your cityscape photos, you HAVE to have a tripod and some sort of filter (if made for your kind of digi) to get anything decent. Remember that Nikon you recommended me years ago? I've killed it through and through but love the new Nikon D50 I have. I know, I know, I need to take more photos, but I need a new lens first ;) <333
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-04 02:41 pm (UTC)
I've taken photos in the deep desert (enroute to FUJ, in the Hajars in UAE and Oman), and indeed, the sky is about as clear as anywhere but the sea, and with even less water-related haze. Not as good as observatories built on even higher mountains, in AZ/CA and presumably in Chile, but very impressive.
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-04 07:13 pm (UTC)
It's cool how much nothing there is out there. =)
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-04 07:13 pm (UTC)
I think the brightly lit construction sites are one reason we can't see anything from Dubai; in a few years when the city is 'finished' we might see more.

Unfortunately, our camera can't take any proper filter. Sometimes I hold my sunglasses in front of the lens. ;-) We have a tripod that Don uses sometimes, but I'm always too lazy to carry it - this laziness has resulted in my ability to take semi-decent pictures in the dark, freehand.

I killed my Nikon, too. =(
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-04 08:41 pm (UTC)
You can get a good tripod which is lightweight for about $90.

A good D-SLR with lens maybe for $500-600.

It is unlikely to get cheaper than that, and the all in one/non-DSLRs are unlikely to take filters, even the ones that look like SLRs :(

Maybe you could get some medium format gels and use those, held in front of the camera?
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[User Picture]From: dubaiwalla
2006-07-05 05:54 am (UTC)
Or a really lousy one for a lot less than that in Bur Dubai, just to see how it works for you. I got a tiny (fits in my pocket) but sturdy looking tripod there for about $7.
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-05 07:50 am (UTC)
$90 gets you a full-height one, which is useful when taking photos "in the wild". Although I guess being able to rest the camera on furniture makes up for that.

I want to get one of those "bean bag" tripods, too.
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[User Picture]From: dubaiwalla
2006-07-05 08:02 am (UTC)
Bur Dubai has full-height tripods for under $20, but they don't look like they will last very long. Between that and the pain of actually having to lug one around with me (including the ban on tripods in some places e.g. Madinat Jumeirah), I figured the pocket-sized one was the right option for me.
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-05 02:54 pm (UTC)
Is it an explicit ban? I haven't tried, but might. It seems difficult to believe they'd confront a guest-looking-person.
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[User Picture]From: dubaiwalla
2006-07-05 03:05 pm (UTC)
I don't know about the hotels, but a security guard in the Madinat Souq very clearly lctrc_gtr_dde not to take his tripod inside when we visited a few months ago. Strange; you'd think good pictures of Madinat Jumeirah would be the sort of images of Dubai they'd want to get out. Maybe they are scared big metal tripods can be used as weapons or something.
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-06 01:37 am (UTC)
The other thing would be:

1) Tripod photography people don't usually buy stuff, and just stand there?
2) Photographers detract from ambiance
3) Setting up a tripod in one of the hallways would create a traffic obstruction

I think it would be possible to test the "weapon" theory by carrying in a lead pipe or something, and see if they ask "please do not take your lead pipe inside".

Ooh...now I want to buy/make a full-length umbrella with a handle which screws open to become double-length (and thus about normal camera height), with the base of the grip unscrewing to reveal tripod mount, and the cover of the grip going onto the tip of the umbrella as a monopod foot. Umbrella/monopod would probably get most places.
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[User Picture]From: dubaiwalla
2006-07-06 04:30 am (UTC)
1) I doubt there could be enough of them that this is a problem.
2) See point 1
3) The hallways aren't ever really that busy, or at least they've certainly never been when I've visited.

carrying in a lead pipe or something
I think I shall skip on trying the government's hospitality for now. Now you, on the other hand, had an accommodation problem...
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From: mightyma
2006-07-04 09:03 pm (UTC)

Light pollution

By the pictures you posted, it almost looks like Dubai was designed with astronomy (and/or energy conservation) in mind. All the street-lights I see are sodium-vapor (which only produces a yellow light, as opposed to the mercury-vapor lights that cover a broader range of the spectrum including blue). Those lights can virtually be blacked out with a light-pollution filter, greatly enhancing your view of the stars. I hope you get a chance to try it out...there is no substitute for a sky full of stars, pictures or not.
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[User Picture]From: octal
2006-07-05 04:20 am (UTC)

Re: Light pollution

Streetlights are sodium vapor because there are so many of them.

The construction sites, however, are vapor. And there are enough of them that "temporary" construction lights outshine streetlamps as light sources.

In the poorer arab countries (i.e. those without oil) (or even in rural parts of the uae), the T... fluorescent tubes rule. Usually naked, often mounted vertically.
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[User Picture]From: chu_hi
2006-07-09 10:12 pm (UTC)

Re: Light pollution

Interesting!
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